Comments for Collateral Knowledge http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge New Approaches to Global Financial Governance Sat, 18 May 2013 07:54:26 +0000 hourly 1 http://blogs.cornell.edu/?v=3.4.1 Comment on A Chinese Translation of Collateral Knowledge by Grace Kuo http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/2013/04/29/a-chinese-translation-of-collateral-knowledge/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Grace Kuo Sat, 18 May 2013 07:54:26 +0000 http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/?p=729#comment-53 One more discussion added: Prof. C.A. Yen questioned that, how would Prof. Riles respond to the materials that were not included in document making? Especially something more complicated yet couldn’t fit in the form of document? How does the document study respond to the gap between reality and artifact, particularly from the jurisprudential perspective? One more discussion added: Prof. C.A. Yen questioned that, how would Prof. Riles respond to the materials that were not included in document making? Especially something more complicated yet couldn’t fit in the form of document? How does the document study respond to the gap between reality and artifact, particularly from the jurisprudential perspective?

]]> Comment on A Chinese Translation of Collateral Knowledge by Grace Kuo http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/2013/04/29/a-chinese-translation-of-collateral-knowledge/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Grace Kuo Fri, 17 May 2013 12:33:02 +0000 http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/?p=729#comment-52 There were some interesting questions raised by legal scholars at that meeting. Prof. A. Shee asked, “ Is Professor’s Riles ambitious to represent beyond the two fields, anthropology and law, but not merely representing in between?” Prof. C.A. Yen followed, “ The position of ‘in-between’ should be more proper to indicate the critical character of interdisciplinary researches.” Prof. C.Y. Chang guessed that Prof. Riles has begun a journey already and gone far away from the core law discipline. Then, what is the ultimate goal for Prof. Riles? These dialogues are from my own note and my comprehension. There might have been some kind of misunderstanding. I’ll apologize for my error. There were some interesting questions raised by legal scholars at that meeting. Prof. A. Shee asked, “ Is Professor’s Riles ambitious to represent beyond the two fields, anthropology and law, but not merely representing in between?” Prof. C.A. Yen followed, “ The position of ‘in-between’ should be more proper to indicate the critical character of interdisciplinary researches.” Prof. C.Y. Chang guessed that Prof. Riles has begun a journey already and gone far away from the core law discipline. Then, what is the ultimate goal for Prof. Riles?

These dialogues are from my own note and my comprehension. There might have been some kind of misunderstanding. I’ll apologize for my error.

]]> Comment on A Chinese Translation of Collateral Knowledge by ar254@cornell.edu http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/2013/04/29/a-chinese-translation-of-collateral-knowledge/comment-page-1/#comment-51 ar254@cornell.edu Fri, 17 May 2013 10:55:51 +0000 http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/?p=729#comment-51 Thank you so much for sharing this information, Grace! Your talk sounds wonderful. I wonder how the audience reacted. Was it difficult to get people to understand what you are doing with documents, or were they quite receptive? Thank you so much for sharing this information, Grace! Your talk sounds wonderful. I wonder how the audience reacted. Was it difficult to get people to understand what you are doing with documents, or were they quite receptive?

]]> Comment on A Chinese Translation of Collateral Knowledge by Grace Kuo http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/2013/04/29/a-chinese-translation-of-collateral-knowledge/comment-page-1/#comment-50 Grace Kuo Fri, 17 May 2013 04:02:36 +0000 http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/?p=729#comment-50 Dear Annelise and research fellows/readers in this blog, On April 30, I was invited by “Taiwan Association for Philosophy of Law and Social Philosophy” to participate in the “Classics Introduction Serious.” In this forum, Taiwanese legal scholars introduce western scholars’ books and thoughts regularly every two months since 2010. I chose Annelise’s “Documents: the Artifacts of Modern knowledge,” meanwhile, I introduced Collateral Knowledge blog and Meridian project. Ethnographically studying documents—I borrow this idea into my analysis on legal documents making in judicial practices— is a groundbreaking method for legal academia in Taiwan. Hope this information will be interesting to Chinese readers. http://classicsintro.wordpress.com/ http://classicsintro.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/2013-法理學經典導讀：documents-artifacts-of-modern-knowledge-ppt-pdf/ Grace Kuo Associate Professor of Law National Cheng-Kung University Taiwan Dear Annelise and research fellows/readers in this blog,

On April 30, I was invited by “Taiwan Association for Philosophy of Law and Social Philosophy” to participate in the “Classics Introduction Serious.” In this forum, Taiwanese legal scholars introduce western scholars’ books and thoughts regularly every two months since 2010. I chose Annelise’s “Documents: the Artifacts of Modern knowledge,” meanwhile, I introduced Collateral Knowledge blog and Meridian project. Ethnographically studying documents—I borrow this idea into my analysis on legal documents making in judicial practices— is a groundbreaking method for legal academia in Taiwan.
Hope this information will be interesting to Chinese readers.

http://classicsintro.wordpress.com/
http://classicsintro.wordpress.com/2013/05/13/2013-法理學經典導讀：documents-artifacts-of-modern-knowledge-ppt-pdf/

Grace Kuo
Associate Professor of Law
National Cheng-Kung University
Taiwan

]]> Comment on About the Book by Annelise Riles http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/about-the-book/comment-page-1/#comment-35 Annelise Riles Tue, 12 Mar 2013 16:38:39 +0000 http://collateralknowledge.com/blog/?page_id=6#comment-35 Dear Martha, Thanks for your question. I agree with you that we shouldn't think of a fiction as "false". It really operates in a different register, as a placeholder. As I say at p. 173, "the legal fiction is not really so much an epistemological claim as it is a special kind of pause". For example, when we say that a corporation is a person, of course we understand that it is not a walking breathing human being, so it would be silly to mount an argument to prove that a corporation is not a walking breathing human being. On the other hand, thinking of a corporation as a person opens up all kinds of other practical, theoretical and political possibilities, and that is the point. So when lawyers say that a corporation is a person, they believe it--in the sense that they believe in those possibilities. But they don't believe it--in the sense that they don't believe that the corporation has flesh and bones. Vaihinger put it nicely in the Philosophy of As if: the As If is not so much true or false but the tension between truth and falsity itself, he said. Dear Martha,
Thanks for your question. I agree with you that we shouldn’t think of a fiction as “false”. It really operates in a different register, as a placeholder. As I say at p. 173, “the legal fiction is not really so much an epistemological claim as it is a special kind of pause”. For example, when we say that a corporation is a person, of course we understand that it is not a walking breathing human being, so it would be silly to mount an argument to prove that a corporation is not a walking breathing human being. On the other hand, thinking of a corporation as a person opens up all kinds of other practical, theoretical and political possibilities, and that is the point. So when lawyers say that a corporation is a person, they believe it–in the sense that they believe in those possibilities. But they don’t believe it–in the sense that they don’t believe that the corporation has flesh and bones. Vaihinger put it nicely in the Philosophy of As if: the As If is not so much true or false but the tension between truth and falsity itself, he said.

]]> Comment on About the Book by Martha Poon http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/about-the-book/comment-page-1/#comment-28 Martha Poon Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:37:38 +0000 http://collateralknowledge.com/blog/?page_id=6#comment-28 Dear Annelise, I had a question about the term ‘legal fiction’ which you introduce to non-legal scholars in your book Collateral Knowledge. You write: “In legal terms, a legal fiction is a statement that is consciously understood to be false and hence irrefutable” (p 24). What concerns me is the strong association of the term ‘fiction’ with ‘falseness’, when, as Mary Poovey has shown, literary fiction has historically been considered an important method of exploring and conveying ‘truths’ about the economy. Of note, the term 'placeholder' which you also introduce (on p 173), has a more pragmatic connotation that avoids the question of truth and falsity. Can you say something more about what the term legal fiction is intended to denote? Martha Dear Annelise,

I had a question about the term ‘legal fiction’ which you introduce to non-legal scholars in your book Collateral Knowledge.

You write: “In legal terms, a legal fiction is a statement that is consciously understood to be false and hence irrefutable” (p 24).

What concerns me is the strong association of the term ‘fiction’ with ‘falseness’, when, as Mary Poovey has shown, literary fiction has historically been considered an important method of exploring and conveying ‘truths’ about the economy. Of note, the term ‘placeholder’ which you also introduce (on p 173), has a more pragmatic connotation that avoids the question of truth and falsity.

Can you say something more about what the term legal fiction is intended to denote?

Martha

]]> Comment on About the Author by Annelise Riles http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/author/comment-page-1/#comment-26 Annelise Riles Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:03:28 +0000 http://collateralknowledge.com/blog/?page_id=94#comment-26 Hi David Thank you for your question. Yes! There are studies. See Hirokazu Miyazaki's book Arbitraging Japan or Karen Ho's book Liquidated or some is Suzanna Sawyer's work on the oil industry. So glad you are interested! Annelise Hi David
Thank you for your question. Yes! There are studies. See Hirokazu Miyazaki’s book Arbitraging Japan or Karen Ho’s book Liquidated or some is Suzanna Sawyer’s work on the oil industry. So glad you are interested! Annelise

]]> Comment on About the Author by David Winship http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/author/comment-page-1/#comment-25 David Winship Thu, 24 Jan 2013 08:50:47 +0000 http://collateralknowledge.com/blog/?page_id=94#comment-25 Are there any anthropological studies or psychological studies regarding contemporary capitalists and why they do what they do, particularly in extractive industries which despoil localities/regions? Is the "it's business" answer psychologically integrated into the individuals internal being or is there a schizophrenic nature at work? I am a gerontological and Appalachian Studies student at Virginia Tech. Sincerely, David Winship Are there any anthropological studies or psychological studies regarding contemporary capitalists and why they do what they do, particularly in extractive industries which despoil localities/regions?

Is the “it’s business” answer psychologically integrated into the individuals internal being or is there a schizophrenic nature at work?

I am a gerontological and Appalachian Studies student at Virginia Tech.

Sincerely,

David Winship

]]> Comment on Japan One Year Later: How Can We Bring Closure to Crisis? by Japan Tsunami http://blogs.cornell.edu/collateralknowledge/2012/03/05/japan-one-year-later-how-can-we-bring-closure-to-crisis/comment-page-1/#comment-19 Japan Tsunami Tue, 13 Mar 2012 12:51:10 +0000 http://collateralknowledge.com/blog/?p=513#comment-19 Everyone seems to be saying that nuclear energy is too dangerous and unpredictable, and shouldn't be used. When compared to fossil fuels it is far cleaner and safer! Only about 2% of nuclear waste in the US is from power plants, the vast majority is military and the health care industry. Everyone seems to be saying that nuclear energy is too dangerous and unpredictable, and shouldn’t be used. When compared to fossil fuels it is far cleaner and safer! Only about 2% of nuclear waste in the US is from power plants, the vast majority is military and the health care industry.

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